Menu>Object>Arrange
Layers work better for more complex stacking layouts.
https://helpx.adobe.com/illustrator/using/rulers-grids-guides-crop-marks.html
https://helpx.adobe.com/indesign/using/grids.html
Gridify is a hidden tool:https://creativepro.com/exactly-indesign-tool/
Another Example in an Adobe Forum post: https://forums.adobe.com/thread/2297694 Make sure you scroll down to Barb's Answer. The top reply is not answered.
https://helpx.adobe.com/indesign/using/aligning-distributing-objects.html